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alfreda89 ([personal profile] alfreda89) wrote2012-06-03 10:39 am

Nighttime Fasting for Health and Weight Loss

It appears that there are now multiple reasons for not eating at night. Women have known for a long time that it's better to eat something "bad" that you want while there's time to start burning it off. Resisting nighttime snacking is also important because eating carbs close to bed makes some people fall asleep hard, and then wake up -- usually hungry -- several hours later. Dairy before bed apparently can contribute to snoring!

But now we're seeing signs that our ancestors ate their last big meal before the sun set, and then did not eat until 16 hours later. And that may have to do with why they were mostly a slender people. Simply put, your liver may need to rest. And allowing it to rest during your "recharge" hours may make it burn calories more efficiently at other times.

I know several people who have been slowly but steadily losing weight on this system. The hardest part for me is that I literally forget to eat until later in the evening. Or I don't get around to breakfast, so I eat lunch at 3 pm, and there you are -- the day is pushed back.

But since the sun doesn't set until after 8 pm, as long as I don't eat breakfast until noon, that might still work! I've been trying to stop anything other than water or coconut water after 7 pm, so this is just another step in a better direction.

Advantages? You get to eat meals with higher fat and calories IF you then don't eat anything from 6 at night until 9 the next morning. I did watch a woman at work lost 25 pounds by not eating after 5 pm, and having one big salad a day as her only required food -- otherwise she just varied healthy choices as her food selections. That definitely worked for her.

Wouldn't it be incredible if it could work for most of us, or even all of us? Has this been the missing explanation of why meat and potatoes did not cause most people to get fat -- not just work, but real rest of the entire system?

PS -- magnesium supplements help when I'm having sugar or chocolate cravings. I really like ones that have more than one form of magnesium in them, like Vital Nutrients Triple Mag 250 mg. It contains oxide, dimagnesium malate and glycinate forms of magnesium. Magnesium depletion is almost always at the root of my cravings. Water soluble, and we burn it when stressed -- make sense?
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[personal profile] lagilman 2012-06-03 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
hah. when I try not to eat anything after sundown (fasting days, etc) my body crashes. Going more than 10 hours without food, even while sleeping, drops my blood sugar to something painful.

Then again, I work on a "5 smalls a day" system, which seems to do the trick, weight-wise.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
This may not work for me, either, because I don't eat as much as a lot of people do for meals. I always bring food home from restaurants, if it was any good and can be reheated.

But we have absorption challenges. I will say that switching to macrobiotic cooking took care of my blood sugar crashes; I don't have them anymore. You eat mostly whole grains, don't you? That apparently is the macro trick. Make sure grains are slow digestion grains.

I don't eat very many GF baked products and breads even if they're GF. My system doesn't want them -- doesn't want white potatoes, either, although it's happy with sweet potatoes. I can't eat a GF muffin made by a bakery -- too sweet. We're talking falling asleep sitting up sweet.

It's been a VERY slow climb, but the macro cooking has been healing my gut.
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[personal profile] lagilman 2012-06-03 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I eat pretty much whatever I want, so long as I do it in small amounts. If I try to forgo anything (especially carbs) I get sick. My body chemistry is apparently weird in a non-diagnosable way.

(they thought I had hyperinsulinemia, but most of the expected side factors are missing)

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I do a lot of carbs, just not refined ones. In fact, I eat more carbs than a lot of women who do macro -- rice/grains twice a day, sometimes 3x counting brown rice tortillas. Fruits and veggies.

Have they changed their Crohn's idea for you?
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[personal profile] lagilman 2012-06-03 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
nope. that (non-official) diagnosis holds, and I still seem to be in remission *knocks wood*

[identity profile] originalkitsune.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If i get caught without food until the last part of the day, I make a shake with Rainbow Light's Protein powder in chocolate. It's vegan , GF. and sugar free, and tastes ok. http://www.rainbowlight.com/protein-weight-management-protein-energizer-chocolate.aspx

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
That looks promising -- I grab a GoMacro bar, which is filling and 15 grams of protein, but 290 calories. Does anyone sell this stuff locally?

[identity profile] originalkitsune.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
wheatsville does i think. Personally if you eat that many, you should buy them wholesale.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I buy GoMacro wholesale. But I'd want to try the shake first.

[identity profile] originalkitsune.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
call them or write them...tell them you are a massage therapist....you might need a biz tax id....but ask for a sample. Most companies will send you one for free.

[identity profile] aberwyn.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Our Paleolithic ancestors walked about 10 miles a day every day. This tends to keep one thinner. :-)

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely for hunter-gatherers! People tend to think back only a couple hundred years, tho. So they are thinking agrarian workers.

[identity profile] sheilagh.livejournal.com 2012-06-03 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
if we have late night hunger, besie the rice protein Kit mentions, we also allow small portions of carbs-only, basically. fruit, rice with ginger, toast with jam (but no butter). basically skip fats and proteins after 7 & safe them for breakfast.

[identity profile] alfreda89.livejournal.com 2012-06-04 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Okay -- I've been likely to grab bison jerky or GoMacros, so will switch to carbs. Pickled ginger or fresh ginger?

[identity profile] sheilagh.livejournal.com 2012-06-04 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
I use a crushed pickled ginger (comes in a tube, is slightly sweet) not sure if it's gluten free, but I get it in the veggies area of Randall's, where they have other tubes of spices in refrigeration.